
Season 1
05 Adultism and internalized oppression towards children
In the fifth episode, Daniela Ramírez Camacho and Sol González Eguía talk with Mónica and Fabiola about adultism and how oppressions are internalized from childhood and their repercussions on our adult lives.

About the episode
How are oppressions recorded in our childhoods? And how do we reproduce them later as adults, even when we want to change the world? In this episode, Daniela and Sol invite us to reflect on adultism as a deeply normalized structure that marks our relationships, our memories, and our ways of organizing collectively.
When we are children, we live difficult experiences that make us feel small, alone and that no one cares about us. As adults, we often continue to feel this way. How does this impact the organizations we are part of and our activism for social change?
Based on personal experiences and years of working with children and caregivers, we explore how fear, disconnection, and the need to be loved lead us to accept—and then reproduce—forms of violence and control. We talked about mental health, emotional listening, collective parenting and how urgent it is to stop holding girls responsible for the decisions of adults. This ia a moving and transformative episode about how to heal our childhood wounds is also part of the work for social justice.
Mentioned in this episode:
Song for a street child (Canción para un niño en la calle) - Mercedes Sosa con René Pérez (Youtube, Spotify)
Better times (Tiempos mejores) - Yuri (Youtube, Spotify)
About the speakers

Daniela Ramírez Camacho
Daniela Ramírez Camacho is a feminist researcher on issues of care work and care ethics, and a practitioner of the mutual listening methodology, specifically for children, adolescents, and allied adults. She is also the mother of two children.
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Sol González Eguia
Sol González Eguia is a psychologist with a master's degree in Peace Studies and Gestalt Psychotherapy. She has worked for 30 years with refugees, internally displaced persons, in war zones and post-war. She directed a cultural center in the Mazatec Sierra in Oaxaca for 10 years, aimed at the care of children.
About the hosts

Mónica Moreno Figueroa
Mónica G. Moreno Figueroa is a Black, mixed-race Mexican woman who has lived in the United Kingdom for over 25 years. She is currently a Professor of Sociology at the University of Cambridge. In 2010, she co-founded the COPERA Collective, an initiative dedicated to making racism in Mexico visible and transforming it from a collective, emotional, and structural perspective. Through COPERA, she promotes public campaigns, media interventions, training programs, and consulting services to advance an anti-racist agenda.
Her research explores the lived and intersectional experience of race and racism in Mexico and Latin America, with a particular interest in anti-racism and its impact within and beyond academia. She also works on feminist theory, intersectionality, and the emotional effects of oppression. She is an expert in qualitative methods and visual methodologies and is known for fostering interdisciplinary collaborations that link critical thinking with social action.
She is currently leading the creation of the Global Racisms Institute for Social Transformation (GRIST), a space for research, collaboration, and action aimed at imagining and building anti-racist futures from a global perspective.
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Fabiola Fernández Guerra Carrillo
Fabiola Fernández Guerra Carrillo is a Mexican, mestizo and white woman, researcher and lecturer on issues of gender, racism, and discrimination, and social communicator. She is the founder and director of the communication agency 11.11 Cambio Social, founding partner of Comparte una Ola A.C., member of the COPERA collective and the REIR Network.
She works on issues of anti-racist communication, gender and discrimination, strategies and new anti-oppressive and anti-racist narratives, and family trees, ancestors and processes of collective healing. She is currently doing a postdoctoral degree at the Center for Transdisciplinary Research in Psychology at the UAEM.
WebsiteThe Structure Within podcast was conceived by Mónica Moreno Figueroa and produced by Fabiola Fernández Guerra Carrillo and Arfaxad Ortiz. The opening credits are voiced by Gabriela García.